Comblain Dieudonn Joseph Mark, I'm unclear what the "leg in a circle" looks like; ditto the "star over the k". Bernard Lambert The 'z' most likely is an inspector's mark indicating satisfactory quality for this part: in this case, a revolver cylinder--that's my best guess, anyway. Sidelocks are marked "Army & Navy CSL London" and are nicely scroll engraved. Using a shotgun shell (a self-contained cartridge with multiple small, sphere-shaped projectiles) instead of a usual bullet is what makes a shotgun a separate kind of a gun. Metal has an even brown patina. Sorry for my delay in responding: I've been OOT and off-line for two weeks. Thank y'all again! Percussion side by side manufactured in Belgium during the 1850's. Makers - Darne, Merkel, Arrieta, Beretta, Browning, Holland, Purdey, Richards, Bernardelli, Parker, Fox, LC Smith, and most other double barreled shotgun, gun and double rifle makers. Comblain - Dorther Hubert "Cueruy" could be the maker. Belgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 preBelgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 pre 1898 fine old Belgium imported exposed hammer shotgun, Leige proofed, floral engraved receiver showing some; FINE 19C. Rib is marked "Vicente Arizmendi Eibar". Bettonville - Fontaine Are also discussed the many markings found applied on the guns and their Damascus barrels are 28". Bovy Thodore Joseph Any ideas as to date range? Very good overall condition. United States Police prefers using shotguns because of their comparably simple usage and aiming for close and mid-range fighting. L.C. outlawman7 - The reason for a lack of response here may be found in the post immediately above yours. Ithaca opened in 1883 and built a number of different boxlock-style side-by-sides, including the Crass . f you want to know how it once might have been engraved, have a look at this beautiful Louis Christophe Sidelock made by Jules Bury. Or any info? Counet-Leboulle J. Broqua & Scholberg Be sure to bookmark our new arrivals page and check it often. Very little: I'm assuming it isn't a muzzleloader but a breechloader, which means it could be as early as 1860-1865, say. Designates rifled barrel. (Not safe to shoot with modern shells.) presented below is the first of the series and is covering the gunmakers whose names are A quality English manufacturer. Shotgun relicThis is for a early 1900's Belgium made and marked with Royal Gun Works Belgium 16 gauge double barrel shotgun *Belgium Browning A5 Automatic 12 ga. . It has a gold trigger and serial number starts with an x. I'm very curious as to why there is an "FN" above the serial #. manufacturers identifying marks, more commonly referred to as Proof Marks, Arsenal or Inspector Marks Bertrand Joseph Collard Henri - Roux Jacques A very sound in proof gun with very nice barrels. SN:18761. Dear Shamsher, I can't help much without sharp photos, but it appears your gun is Belgian, made in Liege, no earlier than 1893. Parker Brothers - One of the most famous shotgun manufacturers started making double barrel shotguns in 1868. The second and third indicateit was proofed at Lige. Good overall condition. will it take normal 12 gauge shells then? production. Clment Charles Philibert Percussion side by side field gun manufactured in the 1860's. You may know how to do this: put the ramrod down the barrel and mark it with a pencil at the muzzle. Description 12 GA. This mark is found on guns that is not made in Belgium by countries that use proofs that is not recognized by the Belgian Proof House. . Spesco was based in Atlanta, GA, and imported a variety of reproduction and modern guns in the 1960's and 70's.It would be a good idea to check that the rifle is unloaded. Companies Gun & weapon makers from Belgium Most relevant Alphabetically: A-Z Alphabetically: Z-A We recommend VANHULEN HIGH PRECISION SPRINGS Country: Belgium Type of company: Manufacturer (own production) Established in: 1907 Languages: English, French vanhulen-high-precision-springs Company profile SSA - archery distributor SSA sporting goods NV Stocks have some field wear. If 'JF' it could be Janssen Fils or Frres. 1839. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, Brandon, but I've been out of the country w/o internet access. (Six volumes by alphabetical order), Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1. insight about the gunmaking activity in Belgium from its very beginning to the middle of %PDF-1.3 On barrels of breechloading shotguns after final black powder proof. But of course he also made quite normal guns for the average hunter. Good overall condition. This continued for many decades. COMPARE. Damascus barrels are 30". Pistol made in Belgium, as you know. Hi Gerard and everyone! Original butt plate is very good, no chips or cracks. Mechanicsburg, PA: Stackpole Books, 2008. Receiver has original case colors in protected areas. Heyday of the Shotgun: The art of the gunmaker at the turn of the last century. . I have pictures If you need them. Good overall condition. BY CONFLICT. Belgian gun makers of that era were notorious for blatantly copying other makers firearms, using names that were close to famous makers such as "W Richards" for "Westley . Clment Walter A complete list of suppliers of shotguns. Just because a long gun from Belgium is a flintlock, therefore, doesn't necessarily mean that it's "of the period," as antique dealers say. The other side of the coin is that quality can indeed be there in Belgian guns: The Belgian Browning Superposed were all fine guns, whilefirms like Francotte, Dumoulin, or Lebeau-Courallycould make guns of very high quality indeed. Locks are marked Charles Daly and are scroll engraved. Belgian proofs are among the oldest and have a very long history. Good overall condition. Debouxthay was a gunmaker in Liege, Belgium, active at least from 1888-1904. Bultot Jean The same stamp but smaller is found on Flobert guns, selfloading pistols with a excess proof pressure of 50%, on barrels of top break guns for Flobert or revolvers cartridges an excess pressure of 30% and or revolvers which are proofed with 30-50% excess loads. Courard N. The size of this book of 232 pages Belgium Belgian Proofmarks Belgian proofs are among the oldest and have a very long history. Belgian Liege gunmakers (G to K) - Volume 3 The text is written in French AND English. Bastin Frres Colt Model 1848 (Baby Dragoon) Five-Shot Percussion . Berleur Guillaume Bouquin Ad American gun manufacturers moved away from Damascus barrels and on to tubes made from fluid steel. Bernimolin Introduced for handguns in 1894, rifles over 8mm in 1897. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Can you send me some, Ed? All written content, illustrations, and photography are unique to this website (unless where indicated) and not for reuse/reproduction in any form. Engraving on lock and hamer are faint. Nessonvaux is short drive outside of Liege. Due to the Hammers cock and function properly. Locks are marked "Parker Bros" and have some original case colors in protected areas. Savage was founded in 1894 by Arthur Savage in New York after years of tinkering with lever-action rifle designs. It has been just recently released but has received some exposure in the gun blogs. But despite the history the belgian proof stamps are rather straight forward, normally one can't get more information from the proof more than it has been done if one can't find the inspectors mark. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The inspectors mark is still an secret so the list here should be regarded as uncertain, but it can in some cases give a more accurate dating that the stamps. To make purchases and use the full site services, register or login your account. To my knowledge, there isn't a book out that covers European proof marks: If someone knows about such a book, please add a comment with that information. Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. 1891 - present 16 Barrel weight in grams of nitro proofed shotguns. I live in Tennessee and would love help on identifying this gun down to the year and place made. Thanks. Damascus barrels are 30". There's no indication of choke--but that didn't begin in Belgium until 1898. Ancion Jacques & Cie The "D.D. Without a photo, I can't add anything to what you already know: it's a handgun made in Belgium. It has been grinded down and so lost its engraving to become a double in the white again. Jules Bury advertising from the 1930ies.Courtesy of littlegun.be. The one on the far right is the definite proof for nitro, or smokeless powder. The problem is this mark was used from 1818 (muzzle loading period) until 1893, so that hardly narrows down the time frame. Also on the chamber there are three marks, one which I have not been able to identify, but appears to be provisional proof? A strong good product that will last for long usage in your I'm very excited and can't wait for some replies. Thanks again for the help! Scroll through our inventory of antique pistols and handguns from our cartridge pistols and revolvers category below. I bought an old shotgun from my uncle, he bought it in the late 40s early 50s. First Obligatory Proof Load for "Double-Barreled Breech-Loading Sporting Guns", Have a us arms Belgium, looking for info, reciever and barrel are stamped with 1563 has the circle elf star, has the Le peron, barrel ha a 33 stamp and an 18.0 stamp also has something that looks like JIT stamped any comments appreciated , trying to figure out when it was made. Fabrique Nationale FN TPS (Tactical Police Shotgun) Pump-Action Shotgun 13 1992 Dynamit-Nobel Panzerfaust 3 Single-Shot Disposable Anti-tank Rocket Launcher 14 1990 Fabrique Nationale FN P90 Submachine Gun (SMG) / Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) 15 1989 MO-120 RT-61 (Mortier 120mm Raye Tracte Modele F1) Towed Rifled Heavy Mortar-Gun 16 1987 Good overall condition. Hammers cock and function properly. Gauge: 10 gauge. 8. . Barrels are not rifled- does this mean it must be a shotgun? Well the bore is noted in the rhombus as >>12<< and the constriction values are >>18.2/18.2<< & >>17.3/18.2<< so with those it has to be a 12 bore. Many thanxPS:. Applied to all guns made but not proofed in Belgium - sent to an other country proof facilities. This is a typical 16 gauge of the period between 1912 and 1939. Comblain Hubert Joseph I can't help you with the ID of the gun but there countless European gun makers, many of them Belgium, around the late 1800's early 1900's. They range in quality from very good to . significance or purpose. On barrels and actions of smoothbore guns with the gauge size. "Any maker's name or place of origin? I think it was made 1890 but not sure. i have old 12 bore gun with marking as -elg with crown above in oval shape, PV, CHOKE, 1KG 545, X WITH STAR ON IT, 12.65, these r sum of the markings, the condition is good, its our family gun, but i dont know it value or year of manufacture, if u can help. 1, Six-Round, Double-Action Pinfire Revolver. CLEMENT, J. Any idea what it all means? Seller: Jacob Hranowskyj. Do check with a gunsmith before you shoot it! Ancion Marx Lige is in the French-speaking part of Belgium. Their shotguns were made in 12, 16, and 20 gauge. Due to the vast quantity of data to treat, the global work was parted . Ray D, STOGERS, advertised them as being made for the AFRICAN tribes to hunt with because with them they would not be able to rebel against the BELGIAN rulers who had modern arms. An interesting pinfire shotgun. The book The "Military Factory" name and MilitaryFactory.com logo are registered U.S. trademarks protected by all applicable domestic and international intellectual property laws. It's an old Belgian made SXS 12 gauge, marked "Lancaster Arms Co." From doing a little research on the proof marks, I think it was made sometime just pre-WWI. John M. Browning's first rifle, the Single Shot, was made in Ogden, Utah. SCH or EC is abbreviations of the powder: SCH meaning Schultze. Bores are excellent. Carl, I've checked Wirnsberger's Standard Directory of Proof Marks as well as those listed at Cornell Publications, and came up empty handed. Hammers cock and action works properly. Very appealing Belgian made double manufactured in the 1890's. The Belgian-made Auto-5 gets more accolades, but the Miroku A-5 is the better gun. Mark for optional superior provisional proof. I found a couple on this site and also nramuseum.com leading me to believe its a British or Belgian gun. English sidelock with hammers by Manton. I will have to upload some pictures later when I get to my computer. have a great day! Revolving Carbine / Shotgun. Winchester Firearms Browning Firearms Browning Firearms has created and manufactured firearms such as shotguns, rifles, rimfires, and pistols, along with many other gun-related accessories. Barrels are nicely patterened damasucs measuring 30" choked modified. Ancion DD & Fils Other makers include Lebeau Courally and Mahillon. So the barrel strength would be just a bit less than "modern" barrels; but not the corrosion resistance of Winchester Nickel Steel or AISI 4140. Forearm has a chip. On this page, once you scroll past the patent stuff, you'll find a gun very much like yours. . Breechloaders had existed previously, but Casimir Lefaucheuxs 1835 invention of the pin-fire cartridgea cylinder with a pin extending at right angles to the base which detonated a fulminate charge in the cartridgequickly led to better breechloading systems and to the development first of rimfire and then of centerfire cartridges.Dating pin-fire guns: the 1835 date of Lefaucheuxs invention gives us a convenient terminus a quo: if the pin-fire wasnt invented until 1835, any pin-fire gun cannot be earlier than 1835. Inspectors mark, normally these are kept secret. Barrels are 30". Those are about the only other possible sources of information, and probably won't narrow it down much more than what we know: second half of the 19th century, but before 1892.Best,GerryBest. 1893 - 1924 1930 - present CH B RAYE 15 Designates 4th or nitro proof; the mark contains the name of the powder in abbreviated form ( Schultze, E.C.) Its weight It is a 12 gauge with 70mm = 2 3/4" chambers. Area Code: 804. cardboard cover and the paper used for the printing was of the high glossy type and Free ground shipping on all US Online Orders over $100! Sounds like a 19th C. Belgian pinfire shotgun (grin). Inspector's marks can not be used to establish date of manufacture; they were re-used over time and the significance of some has been lost. Underside of barrels have French proof marks. The gun was proofed before 1924. Would that appear at this location on the piece?What Im attempting to do, is get this pistol appraised; thus the research to discover all the markings. Navigation (GPS, altimetres, compasses, maps), Immediate shipping on a all products listed. Braekers Charles & Cie Shotguns became popular after the U.S. Army used them during the First World War while close-range fighting in trenches. Consignment Sale Information. Proof Marks or "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over time, therefore assisting in dating the arm. The Liege proof house was established in 1672 and it is the oldest European proof house still in operation. Bertrand Antoine & Fils Baker, David J. Other than the diameter stamp, I don't see a 70mm stamp. 14 Designates guns with rifled chokes. Hello, I have two ELG 1136 Belgian Percussion Dueling pistols with a 6 inch barrel. The first type of testing we will study is the Proof Test. Hammers cock and function properly. William Moore 7 Co. For now, the year of introduction of E.C. On barrels of muzzleloading guns that has passed a re-enforced black powder proof. listed in alphabetical order. Bury was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte. The "1136" might be the serial number for that pair of pistols. Bayet Frres Where did you find the Falla mark? A number of book by Dr. James Whisker and various co-authors list Amercian makers by specific region. Bury Jules. Cap Joseph Damascus barrels are 30". so that means it is for sure a 12 gauge? I also looked at other European proof marks but didn't find the one you mention: compare http://www.cornellpubs.com/Catalog/proof-marks-intl.pdf. . Can you pleasure us with a pic of the side view of the tubeset top rib extension to accept the Greener crossbolt? Gun Barrel Proof Marks. I suspect the gun is a Janssen. Locks are marked "Perkins". Sent from my SM-J727V using Tapatalk Aug 26, 2020 #3 Here ya go! The next guns carrying the Browning name were manufactured in Belgium. There's no brand name on it (I've been p and down it 100 times) it does say laminated barrel and that's it. B. Tradename on guns made in Belgium, c.1900. is about 30 cm X 22 cm (11.80" X 8.60"). Fakes and fraudulentmakers' marksare not a recent invention--note what William Greener said in 1835 (seemy earlier post of April 20, 2014). View all posts by Wolfgang von Brauchitsch , TOY FOR A BOY DREYSE TESCHING from 1894. The IZh motorcycles and automobiles are manufactured by. Thank y'all for your help ahead of time! Antique Shotguns (Pre-1899): Belgian Shotguns, Side by Side Shotguns, Our inventory of antique shotguns is made up of shotguns manufactured before 1899, including English, French, and Belgian shotguns. Baron Emile I have pics of the Proof marks I want to show you. Hammers cock and function properly. Chambers are 2 3/4". American Gunsmiths by Sellers, and American Gun Makers by Gluckman & Satterlee list American makers. Action and hammers work properly. All iron construction with skeleton type stock. Judging by the comments that appeared when I Googled "spesco corporation," your guess is on target. Any help would be appreciated. Free shipping for many products! Action works properly. Revolver. ('Manufacturer') Home > Product Catalog Shotguns made in Belgium category Firearms/ Small arms 731 Rifles 237 Shotguns 359 Pistols 134 Blank/Signal/Rubberball pistols 1 Black powder/Muzzleloader 2 Ammunition 3 Ammunition Components/Reloading 20 Any maker's name on the rib between the barrels?Best,Gerry, 1902 a greener twobarrel it has hh on botten of barrel what do i have. GunID: 4746. Since it reads >>Made in Belgium<< on the side of the tubes it was made for export. Damascus barrels are approximately 30". For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The 1KG 545 is the barrel weight in grams. Antiquegunlist.com is the leading provider of antique guns for sale. What about a lightning bolt with a star above? the 20th century. Do you have any information on them? Anyone else know? Collectors Firearms, LLC. Eventually, the company developed the Savage Model 99, a classic hunting rifle the company had produced for nearly 100 years. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. It's complete. Cowboy & Old Western History Items 2/3/2023 Bargain Basement 2/3/2023 Check our Services. Thanks! Moore & Co. on both sides. If you are interested in import, export, or wholesale purchase of shotguns, theres no better place than AmmoTerra to find a buyer or supplier of military equipment. I will try to upload a pic if it'll let me. Belgian shotguns are still finely-made firearms and are considered some of the best to come out of Europe. Stock has a repaired crack at wrist. Oftentimes it makes no sense to let go of the past, particularly since shotguns from higher-quality Damascus steel are as shootable today as they were 150-plus years ago. ArmsCollectors.com Collectable Firearms Forums Modern, antique and collectable firearms, questions answered, gun & militaria related items. Stock has an old crack at heel. Bead. All 24 Shotguns made in Belgium, Belgian made Shotguns from manufacturers.name.include? See all my Guns on Guns International Click on Link The English Goldsmiths Marks from 1400 to 1900 ~ 11000 Makers Marks and Hallmarks from ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, AND IRELAND ~ RARE Reference Book For Collectors Over 700 pages, Collectors and dealers will by the aid of this work be enabled to locate and fix the date of much English, Scottish and Irish plate, and to identify many marks which have been Manufactured in the 1860's. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810. Bury was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte. thank you. He took delivery at the maker's London showroom on Picadilly. Unmarked as most are. Example of inspectors mark, any letter can be used with a crown. Does it reach the touch hole? If you can, send me a photo: ghcox3@gmail.com.Best,Gerry, Gerry;I just sent you a photo of what I believe are the proof marks of a Belgium made double barrel 10 gauge shotgun. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I have got a 19th century belgian double barrel pin fire shoutgun with walnut stock(116cm). stream Stocks are good with minor nicks and dings. Email: Info@hlebooks.com Damascus barrels are 36". Arnold Mathias Hi, Jeremy. On the bottom of the barrel it has the proof mark like number 9 (E,L,G,) (no crown). There's no indication of chamber length--but that didn't begin until 1892.The other marks I can't identify.So what can I tell you? Underlever and side plates are engraved with a floral motif. The idea behind such a test is to verify the strength of the barrel, breech and firing system of a firearm by deliberately firing an over-pressured cartridge. Some older foreign manufactured firearms, such as pistols . 2 Hammerless 12 Gauge Parker Bros. Stevans): cant verify it is Maj. Doan, but on his hip is a pistol, which looks alike a 7 in. I need help identifying the maker of this old double barrel side-level shotgun that is evidently made in belgium. How does it open? Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Rich engraved. Double Barrel Shotgun. I can't ID the 'RM', who was likely the barrel maker. It was used by a myriad of hunters for all kinds of wild game. He was registered with the Liege Proof House from 1896 to 1947. LLH (and other Belgian makers) made the tubes used by most of the U.S. double gun makers 1920s-1940s, with Siemens-Martin or Krupp (by license) steel supplied by Cockerill. How do I price this piece? The gun has 72 cm barrels and weighs only 2,8 Kg. + 10-14% by piezoelectric transducer measurement. Hammers function properly. Locks are scroll engraved and marked "J. Manton & Co.". Some of the links in the first post are inactive and can not be edited. Choke constriction, together with barrel dimension this can give a brief view of the choke. This printed GI#: 102181883. Today's biography is a guest post by our friend Robert White - thanks, Robert! 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Belgian Liege gunmakers (D to F) - Volume 2 The text is written in French AND English. "The Best Damn Gunshop in the World" Post request for quotation and get multiple offers from manufacturers, 155MM HE 107 Full Zone 8 Charge with Electronic Fuze, Large quantity of surplus guns and exotic guns, BA 312 Semi-Auto Magazine Tube Tactical Shotgun, BA 912 Bullpup Mag-Fed Semi-Auto (2 Different Mold), BA 912 Special Cerakote Bullpup Mag-Fed Semi-Auto Shotgun. Good overall condition. Locks are engraved with scenes of dogs on point. Colt Model 1839. However, there are more proof marks that I cannot find on the internet. The frontend remains original. In 1899 alone, the U.S. firms of Hartley & Graham and Simmons Hardware bought 90,000 shotguns, rifles, and handguns from Liege gunmakers. On barrels and actions of smoothbore guns with the gauge size (or nominal bore) plus the shell or cartridge case length. The wood does not look ancient so I am guessing in the 1970s or so. 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