I know it's hard to change your life around, but sometimes that is the only way to break out of the funk. Hospital internal medicine seemed like a good fit, but after I graduated, I felt like I needed more training. I shouldve really thought about what I really wanted out in life before I decided to go down this road. Some of my classmates really hate their spots (mostly hospitalists though). Docs think in algorhythms too - usuallyx+y=z, but if it ends up as e, go to a, b, c, or d and reset based on thatresult. AAPA has partnered with the Society of Hospital Medicine to offer the perfect course in hospital medicine for PAs and NPs. :-). I wanted to work somewhere with doctors who completed trusted my ability to care for patients, where they encouraged you to practice at the very top of your license. Contact her at [emailprotected]. I am 1.5 months into my first job. January 30, 2017 in PA Student General Discussion. WebIm tired of being woken up in the middle of the night when Im on call. Get a bachelor's degree (preferably in science). I like to spend time with patients. Staff Physician. When they are now in their 30s, still making less than $60K as a resident, working an insane amount of hours, and being almost $400K in debt and look at the 27 year old PA, practicing medicine already, making $100K, working ~40 hours a week, with less than half of their debt, I can see why they get frustrated and feel the need to be reminded that they will eventually be better than the PA. uscareerinstitute.edu. Learn some professionalism; just because it sucks in New York doesn't mean it will suck elsewhere. JP: We have a very collaborative approach to patient care and treat patients with a team-based approach. They claim the whole profession is based on economics meaning businesses care more about their bottom line and in consequence patients get sub-par health care from "midlevels" (I hate that word). Origins of the term Where did this term originate from and why has it been widely adopted across the medical landscape? They each were terrified what would happen after graduation. And we all appreciate a nice clean work environment. Literally - almost everyone is feeling this way as a new grad. Younger physicians are well acquainted with how competitive PA school has become, have friends that are PAs, and are more willing to experiment with how they can utilize us. This is silly because I'm in a field where it's hard to kill people. End rant. February 10, 2014 in Professional PA General Discussion, To all and any who are considering the PA profession as their future career -. I dont know anymore. Still, moving forward feels a heck of a lot better than cursing the darkness and watching the clock tick. Yes it will be a longer path and a harder one, but it will end. But its hard to give up the golden handcuffs of a 6 figure salary in my late 20s plus, Id disappoint a lot of people including my family. Doctoral Degree. In New York we have no choice but to sell our souls to the doctors and hospitals. See all of you at the Santa Monica Yacht Club for our two hour martini lunch, with my captain's hat and club blazer on! Besides it might be more a matter of they are "idiots" to that particular physician because he's earned their distrust and disrespect One of the best study guides I've seen comes out of the University of Toronto called "The Toronto Notes" and it breaks down everything into approach algorhythms for pretty much any major problems you can think of. Ted James MD, MHCM Suche erweitern. I have run across docs that think anyone less than an MD shouldn't make any medical decisions, but there are many docs that recognize that we can work independently in high acuity situations. Haha I'm glad and at the same time, sad that I'm not alone. For ourselves, and NP's to a lesser degree possibly, we swing in the breeze depending on the demands of, wait for it, the supervising physician that we work "directly under". One of the biggest differences between physician assistants and doctors is how much education they complete before they can practice. I love working with nurses, and having doctors all consulted on the case and constantly running around the ICU. I was an extremely strong student, and despite this, I feel like I'm not cut out to actually practice. Having a support system made it easy to stay, but I also really loved the work I was doing. But a lot of general medical specialties seem to offer more autonomy. 89. This smart vacuum includes iRobot's P.O.O.P. I agreed with E. Upstate NY. As you build experience = job satisfaction = more respect. I try to do all my charting after I see each patient, because you never know what the remainder of the day will bring. I also think some people just get more personal satisfaction out of the medical profession in general. I also knew that the likelihood of me accepting another position while I was still in a job I enjoyed so much was nearly zero. Being a major research facility, the physicians have many other obligations outside of patient care. I am in my FM rotation with a DO who precepts med students year-round but we had a cancellation in my original site and he agreed to take me. Physician assistants prefer 'associate.' Only deployment overseas to Iraq as an Army Medical Officer gave me the great job satisfaction one would expect to get out of their work. I wonder if it' s just the specialty you are in, and private practice vs. Hospital. Anyone else feel this way? This is a huge statement and is not entirely true. I guess they are equivalent too according to your 0.02. She went to meet the patient and learn more about his history. Find out more about the course and register today! Job It wasn't a matter of not wanting anything to change. The lawsuit Eugene Volokh, Locals Technology Inc. and Rumble Canada Inc. v. Letitia James alleged A.7865A/S.4511 infringes on First Amendment freedom of speech by requiring social Is the grass really greener? And maybe feeling just a little bit better. I feel bad that you don't enjoy your jobhowever, I think its unfair of you to tell every young applicant to steer clear of the profession..ce The PA life for me, thanks. It will seem plenty unfair. I think what they say is true that medicine should be a calling and you should get into it because you love caring for others otherwise. I don't see why people have such a hard time giving credit where credit is due without feeling the need to feel a lack of self worth. Between my family and work, I add in some occasional downtime and time with friends, and it keeps me balanced and happy. My daughter Avery is eight years old, and my son Evan is about to turn six. Plus, people in Texas say things like "I appreciate you" and "Have a blessed day." But like others have said, we get to help people on a daily basis. Im tired of working through my lunch break. How do you do that? So, rather than being a story about why I quit, it's more about why I could never bring myself to do it before now. Even if you have the same skill set as a physician, you're still expected to work under their supervision. I am doing everything I can every day to prepare and am hoping for the best - I still would choose this route vs becoming a doc when I'm 40, though I have definitely considered it. 2018 PhysicianAssistantForum.Com. without much preparation for what happens when it isn't y. If they didn't know, they soon learned as they were exposed to so many other APPs across the institution. My days will be occupied by listening to her soft snoring while she sleeps and feeding her peanut butter milk bones while she's awake. I wanted a role where I could be that confident in my skills. I've though about working a meanial job and paying the bare minimum on my loans. Anderson did it." We have come to adapt to shift work, and it works for us. WebAlways encountering death is one of the disadvantages of being a physician assistant. I have zero confidence in my abilities as a practitioner/decision making/etc., which isn't helpful in any aspect. And PA students may be interested in /r/PAstudent for discussions geared towards PA school. But a lot of general medical specialties seem to offer more autonomy. If if you are meh about the job or have a lot of other irons in the fire then say thank you for the opportunity but you feel the salary isnt competitive in such a high COL area and that you dont feel like you can reach a mutually Im even lucky to have gotten a job at the height of the pandemic. Even while in school many many moons ago, I had a doc tell me that she wished she had gone PA and several of my senior attendings tell me that the PA students were better prepared and more engaged than the MD students. Im tired of the inflexibility of my schedule. They were SO GLAD when they returned. If you decide to go to PA school and become a PA you'll find out just what I'm talking about. They moved from out of state; they didn't have family here and came alone. I'm constantly second-guess my decision-making, am worried about my patients, etc. No carreer is going to be sunshine and roses 100% of the time. Im afraid of starting out in the bottom again. This realization was the trigger I needed. Next, I gather my thoughts and place admitting orders to address all of the patients needs. Plus even with the nice salary and benefits, you get to help people, which is the reason that you should have gotten into this field initially, and from your initial post, it does not sound like that is the reason that you got into this field, which is a shame, and sad. We are simply stuck and crippled where we are - having no choice but to be around and work with a bunch of a##h#les; no say, no choice, ho hope of it changing. Participation is open for anyone, including PAs, Physicians, NPs, nurses, students, other medical professionals, and the general public. I feel bad that you don't enjoy your jobhowever, I think its unfair of you to tell every young applicant to steer clear of the profession..certain professions are not for everyone, but I am sure there are happy PAs out there Lots of happy PAs in my neck of the woods. I've been kind of noticing this in general too. Powered by Invision Community, Welcome to the Physician Assistant Forum! Then there's the few Navy friends I know who became PAs One is a complete dirtbag as a PA just like he was as a corspman.In the end it's not the profession but the individual. The iRobot Roomba j7+ is designed with the issue of dog poop in mind. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. We go in liking the idea of being flexible and having the ability to move among the specialties. These are not easy choices and there can be substantial obstacles to overcome. If the others involved in your care seem afraid to make a mistake, this could be detrimental to you in the long run. For pre-PA help, check out /r/prephysicianassistant. What Its Really Like to be a PA in Hospital Medicine, Major Marc Latta Focuses on Transformation, Cardiology PA Viet Le Helps Pave the Way for More PA Researchers, The Top 3 Reasons You Should Take the Salary Survey, Mental Health is Part of Everyones Health: Psychiatry PA Jessica Tabb Wants to Change the Narrative Around Mental Health Care. Jobs are out there that will afford you the respect, autonomy, and fulfillment that you seek. "If I could go back in time, I would actually choose a totally different career path; probably as far away from the healthcare field as possible!" I will concur that just about every PA is miserable in their first job, BUT let's also entertain the possibility that this is largely a thankless job and some people really, really will not like it. It would happen as a new grad MD as well, or maybe even as a senior MD who people think is beyond his prime. Kelli, practicing as a PA for about five years at the time, made this determination on her own. Enforcement of a law requiring social media companies to better police potential hate speech has been struck down by a federal court. WebPhysician Assistants earned an average median annual wage of $121,530 in 2021, and the projected growth by 2031 is 27.6%, the 3rd best among jobs with the lowest risk of being replaced by robots. People in both roles complete a bachelor's degree in pre-med or a similar field, such as biology, nutrition, public health or biochemistry. Before you jump into becoming a physician assistant (or a physician, for that matter), know that it will sometimes ask things from you even when you dont have them to spare. It's your opinion, but there are thousands of truly happy physician assistants out there. As someone who is in their nth career, I think we have to take ownership of our own situations. Actually, PAs are not the cause if the problem. Our physicians value our opinions and the perspective we bring. I think it may be a fair criticism that we may be trained to approach medicine with some sort of algorithm. Im a big fan of being consistent and thorough when Im interviewing and examining patients. and realize there will be good days and bad days.looks like your having a bad day. Beyond the number of PAs, I also had a lot of colleagues that were in the same boat as me. All I can say is that you should come spend a day with me (or any other surgical PA I know), and I will disabuse you of the notion that I'm a glorified "errand boy" with no autonomy. Use these steps to guide you on your journey. Our landscape continues to change, and so will we. I was feeling drained and hated my job. Hospitals are PAs largest employer group, and hospital medicine is an ever-changing practice setting. I think your state makes a big difference; as much as your specialty. I'd be paying them off forever but God, I'd probably be happy! We love PAs and we love working with them. A long one too. I used to think that all problems would be solved in my lifetime. I answer emails and do paperwork whenever I have a free moment. Plus, from what Ive seen having a Masters in PA isnt really marketable in other industries like an MD or RN. The responsibility is daunting, I agree. It boggles my mind. Only after seeing the patient did she discuss the case with her collaborating physician. JP: PAs in HIM have to be flexible, organized, and able to multitask. It sucks. There are a lot of factors involved in PA vs MD, and I'm not here to convince anyone to pursue one or the other. I'm burnt out and my horse just entered the race. Theres never a dull moment in the hospital! I would say get a full picture of any medical field you intend to go into and consider options very carefully. Part of me says I should suck it up and stick it out for at least 3 years. The job simply sucks! To the OP. I organize all of the events for our local Derm Society of physicians. I actually got off the phone the other day with an MD-derm who wanted to RSV Dr. Bob. 4. If I got stuck on something, I'd check the approach pathways out to see where the next fork would take meI still get my updated book each year. This is the key to the OP's problem. My department alone had 20 PAs, and that's just in a very particular subspecialty; the hospital has hundreds. Why not take condescend from the medical heavens and take these alleged deficient PAs under their all knowledgeable wing and share with them the nectar of the MD/DO deities?A few lab techs from my program went and became PAs years ago. Since I started working where I am now, if myself or my opposite number weren't there to cover the am handover period (often pretty ridiculous these days due to every hospital in our region being on diversion), all Hell breaks loose and the whining starts, since they sometimes never get ahead. It's your life and the clock keeps on ticking. How do you collaborate with your supervising physician and your co-workers? Sometimes people will succumb to If I am working an afternoon/evening shift, my entire shift tends to be performing new admissions and consults. Biden and gang are still trying to blame Donald Trump for the countrys many problems. Theres also all of the sunken cost in quitting. I had an attending on one of my worst rotations in schoolactually look at my senior resident(PA's being new to many of them and him being an arsehole generally)and say "get used to itthey're not here to take your job, but tomake your job easier". Personally, stuff like this doesn't bother me at all. Hindsight is 20/20. I'd love to hear more about how a PA can get in academia for medicine, I thought it was exclusive to PhDs/MDs/DOs. She completed her undergraduate education with a degree in elementary education and psychology. By continuing your use of this website, you consent to this use of cookies. Why I quit my career as a PTA and went into the field of Digital Marketing. My dog, Lulu, has an advanced dog version of ALS, and I plan on staying out of work and with her until the end. All Rights Reserved. We discuss everything from interesting patient cases to stories about our kids to our favorite recipes. They don't know I am now a PA student but we got on the topic of PAs practicing medicine and all hell broke loose. I then go talk with and examine the patient in the ED. It was a chance at a promotion, and I immediately knew I didn't want it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'm a very personable and affable individual as well. Philo I actually got off the phone the other day with an MD-derm who wanted to RSVP for an event, and on the tail end of the conversation he asked me about my plans for PA school and then proceeded to tell me how if he could do it all over again he'd become a PA. Why wasn't I just living in Texas? Late 20s is very young still. Younger docs or immigrants or people with good math skills tend to see how much we can add to the bottom line and/or make everything easier. I have noticed that some medical students and residents sometimes have animosity towards PAs but I think that will go away as they start practicing more as an attending. However, I do respect the insight and appreciate the candid discussion. 14,595 satisfied customers. My friend who is a pharmacist recently made the switch and loves it. Fact is, the world doesn't need a ton of House MD's, certainly not in primary care where 90-95% of what we see is obvious and our boards beat the other 5-10% to death. Explore, be flexible & you'll be happy you did. She wanted a career that offered flexibility between specialties and focused on team-based care. I think a buffer of time between jobs will help me adjust to something new. I was talking with several doctors recently who I interact with on ocassion. Thank you for your post. Everyone worries when theyre home from work that they screwed up. We really do have a work family. Having great colleagues is what makes me happy to come in to work day after day. The APPs either work day or afternoon/evening shifts. Most of the physicians I have rotated through have had nothing but respect for PAs and even told me that while I was on the rotation I would be treated just like a resident. I found the one during the spring of my clinical year. I've been a PA for 17 years and I can count on one hand (ok maybe two) the number of days my job produced a level of satisfaction, enjoyment, or happiness. Had interview last week go well. The people with great jobs think the rest are ungrateful whiners, and those with sh!tty jobs think the profession sucks. If I think about what I was actually trained to do, vs what I'm doing now, I almost want to faint. JP: Work-life balance is a difficult thing. If we could work from the comforts of our home, I bet the quality of life would go up significantly. Yes it will be a longer path and a harder one, but it will end. You'll have that. At the same time.. if I were to make a switch , I should do it now while I dont have any kids. This an extremely tight niche though. However, this is the first time I have seen such an enraged doctor over another health care provider and it threw me for a loop. ), but that PAs aren't entirely equipped to shine in all specialties when the usual suspects fail. I have been a pa since 1996 as well and share some of your frustrations at times. About eight months in, I was looking for part-time work in an ER to help pay off my student loans. Rarely did I ever have to explain my role to patients. Hey, new grad here. Im hoping it gets better because at this point I have no other options. It is just disheartening and frustrating when my patients have functional/unexplained/vague symptoms that I can't really help or fix. I keep thinking that I should have gone into a different field and Im overwhelmed and scared and feel stuck. However, it gets me wondering if a switch would even make me happy. Looking back now. Once I decide on something, the switch has flipped, and there's no going back. I am fortunate to have found a role as a PA that was so hard to give up, and I have no regrets about "overstaying" my original plan. Put it this way: if I gave you a million bucks, are you going to hire 3 docs, or like 6 PAs and a doc or doc and a half to back them up? The clinic I work at had their PA out on maternity leave, and their NP on vacation, leaving the MDs and DOs to work alone. I have another job lined up. The spectrum of work hours, conditions, level of autonomy, and pay is tremendous; possibly more so than any other direct provider profession. Physician Assistants provide healthcare services typically performed by a physician, under the supervision of a physician. Many states still are not very PA-friendly, and compensation is a joke. Not a PA, but an NP, and I feel the same way you do. There'd always been a patient or two that I wanted to make sure I stayed until the end for, and then that would overlap with the next patient. I have met so many people in the past ten years that had the same plan as me. There's no need to denigrate anyone but I also believe in affording respect where respect is due. :/. But I firmly believe one is responsible for creating their own happiness, creating their own fulfillment, and creating their own reality. As recognized leaders in cardiac care, women's and children's services, cancer care, orthopedics and advanced patient-safe Location & Hours 5300 Snyder Ln Ste A Glad you're in a better spot! If that one way isn't for you, you aren't a bad person, it just isn't for you. I enjoy working both shifts, because its a nice change of pace. Very hard to land a gig like this. Don't be fooled! Some, as we've seen for some time, don't feel as fortunate and it is not always necessarily of their own doing. If some doc said that to me, I'll just smile and say yup you better be. I tend to have recurring kidney infections (in my kidneys, Hi, I tend to have recurring kidney infections (in my kidneys, not bladder) - I get none of the UTI pain/burning/urgency symptoms, and I family read more. What is scheduling like at your hospital? It has to be written down! Have you tried looking for pharm sales positions? Another helpful characteristic of HIM PAs is being obsessive (in a healthy manner) about details to make sure all of the patients medical conditions are addressed and nothing is missed. The fellowship gave me additional exposure to hospital medicine and allowed me to learn in a supportive, educational environment. Considering a specialty switch. 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