JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. However, if youre hoping to win a target shooting contest at 600 yards, the 3 inches less wind deflection and 4 inches less drop from the PRC give you a leg up. Could run the sendero lite or a bartlein magnum sporter I bet Saum simply because its a 7 and you said elk. Mag. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. . $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. Mag. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. Cartridge: 7 RUM. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! Trustpilot. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. Thoughts on a 22 or 23 Barrel in 7mm Rem Mag? Reactions: Zeroit. You must log in or register to reply here. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. I'm currently hunting with a 7rm shooting 168 Berger vlds at 3000 fps. Recoil of a 9# Rem. 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The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. 7mm Rem. fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. What was your 28 Nosler load with 180s at 3080? Barrel life will also be lower than the other two. My vote would be for the 7 saum. ADG 300 . With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. He's loading the 195's to something like 3.730" COAL, well past SAAMI specs. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. Want to do 24-26 barrel. Winchester claims a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3,225 fps with a 140 grain bullet for their 7mm WSM cartridge; the claimed muzzle energy (ME) is 3,233 ft. lbs. It made sense for me. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. .672., MV 2,900 fps. .280 AI hands-down. Ban sober drivers from driving. Pros, cons of both and reasons why. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. 7rm for me. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. Ive got the same dilemma. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By So how do you choose among these three? Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. This is a long-range dream cartridge for sure. The best part is that the recoil is super easy compared to a 300. In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. However I am still using H4831, and I bet with VV N 570 or RL26 I could pass those speeds easily. With a 160 grain bullet the Remington figures are 2960 fps and 3112 ft. lbs. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. Thats the 7mm magnum advantage. This is probably too high for real world hunting, but well use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). My Saum is on a med length action and was a full tilt everything I wanted build. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Assuming that would be as illogical as assuming the 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 223 Remington are strictly military cartridges. Once you get some freebore to seat the long, heavy bullets out, it really shines. Diver160651 Who cares. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. ADG 30 Nosler Brass. With a 28" I got 2950~2975 with a 195 and 3150 with a 180. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. $120.95. It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! $120.95. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. 28 has an edge over 7RM on range and power, but as others have stated 7RM already has. Id suggest a similar plan. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. 7 saum 7 rem mag 7 ultra mag 28 nosler The 284 and 280 appeal to me for lower cost (components and barrel life), but they are the slowest. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Meanwhile, over in Africa a Scottish commercial ivory hunter named Bell was making the little 7x57mm famous as a BIG big game round by dropping some 800 elephants with it. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. Brass is not going anywhere as a handloaders cartridge. Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. from all the adds for the nosler 28, they have the data on the 7 rum dumber down to make them look better. You might think Remington started the 7mm cartridge trend in 1962 with its famous 7mm Remington Magnum, but by then the 7mm Mauser was already well known. Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. Ballistic twins. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. Not to concerned about the barrel life, you cant expect Ferrari performance and get Prius fuel mileage haha theres always a trade off, I think a mild load in a 28 might be the best of both worlds. Pretty sure the can thing is a complete game changer on optimal barrel length. JavaScript is disabled. &mm PRC. ADG Brass. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. Kind of soured me on light bullet's. You go long. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. Full-magnum action long. Interesting. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . Furthest down, around the primer pocket, the brass should be firm. The difference might surprise you. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. It does have a dark side, though. As the name suggests, this round is aimed squarely at accurate, long range performance. Full Member. Muzzle energy means the energy of the bullet at the time of leaving the gun. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. Howdy. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. It is simply the 7mm SAUM case necked down. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. https://westtexordnance.com/7mm-300-norma-improved/, https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/28-nosler-195-berger-re33-testing.159270/, Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert FDE w/ conversions, Desert Tech SRS A1 FDE RH 6.5x47L - Parted Out. Supporter. Easily fed from a BDL mag box. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Mag. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. . Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. Which one would you choose and why? Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. And the accuracy with both powders was great as well. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. YMMV . Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. Rich is a good guy to talk to on the phone we bsd a bit the other day. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. You must log in or register to reply here. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . A major part of that depends on rifling twist. It may not display this or other websites correctly. JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. Clear winner. Buy Now. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Categories The 28 Nosler is also loaded to a slightly higher pressure than the 300 Win Mag (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. . The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. Buy Now. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. Mag. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. The belt has never been an issue for me. But if you suspect a 26-inch barrel might be a bit unwieldy, waitll you haul around a 28-inch. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. But if you are only going to shoot the 160's you may be ok with SAAMI spec'd chamber. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. Regardless what rifle cartridges were initially designed for, they can be perfect for other applications, which suggests the 7mm PRC could be your next do-all big game hunting cartridge. For you guys that have had both with do you prefer. at the muzzle. The sample Hornady 180-gr. Im thinking Id run Berger 168 or 180 in SAUM and 140 or 156 in PRC. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. loads beautifully, delivering them sub-MOA out to 1,500 yards, then a mile just to say I did it. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. Mag. When I add this up, I default to the 7mm Rem. Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). | It may not display this or other websites correctly. A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). Trustpilot. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. needing 1.3 mils for a 10 mph full value wind. 28 nosler is a great choice for the heavies mine is throated for the 195 eols but im gonna try the 190 atips soon. The structure of the material reveals the hardness. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. Trustpilot. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. Amazing bc too for the weight. I have a variety of options on this, as I am planning to do this on a DTA, for which I have both .535 and .585 bolts, and the DTA mags are pretty generous in regard to OAL. 7 RUM Choose an option 6.5 PRC 6.5 SAUM 7 SAUM 7 REM MAG 7 RUM 28 NOSLER 300 WIN MAG 300 NORMA MAG 300 PRC 300 RUM 30 NOSLER 338 LAPUA 338 RUM 338 EDGE 300 WSM 375 RUM 7 REM MAG BRIGHT 338 RUM BRIGHT 30 NOSLER BRIGHT. Remington claims a MV of 3175 fps and ME of 3133 ft. lbs. Nosler Unprimed Brass 204 Ruger $ 53.82 - $ 208.59 Select options Nosler Unprimed Brass 220 Swift (50) $ 84.99 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem (100) $ 111.28 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem Magnum (250) Unprocessed Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 215.54 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 223 Rem $ 50.18 - $ 206.83 Select options Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. Qty: Add to cart . While the 7 Rem Mag has been built on everything from 1:8 twist to 1:10, most spin 1:9. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Its a criterion 26 barrel. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. This rings home with me. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. 22 Nosler. Mag. Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. Mag., the 264 Win. Great extraction and wide nodes with many powders. Mag. It is going to be strictly a hunting gun on a lighter weight platform. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. Which action are you using and what barrel length? Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. You must log in or register to reply here. I'm the same as you. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. Mag. Any opinions, thoughts, or experiences with either? Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. . Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. RL-19, H4350, and IMR 4350 are all good choices. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Mag. These are some impressive numbers. It slightly exceeds the ballistic performance of the short-action 7mm SAUM on the right. The 28 Nosler is in the 7mm Rifle Ammo family. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. That results in performance like this: Whoa grandma! bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. And most of the recent data for the rum is also on the weak side. That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. It had impressed its power upon our troops in Cuba under fire from Spanish Mausers in 1898. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This calls for a light rifle. Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box N N2TRKYS Well-Known Member Joined I already have a few 264 caliber rifles. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. Trustpilot. If the muzzle energy is higher, it will leave the bullet with higher energy. Barrels are like truck tires. That's how gun control works.". Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. The resulting reservoir holds 77 grains of water with a 175-grain bullet seated to Over-All Cartridge Length (measured base to tip of bullet.). If you want 7mm magnum performance, youll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. Improving 7mm Rem. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. The .308 just has to be quite a bit heavier. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. You are using an out of date browser. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. The 7max performance that Rich advertises is somewhat inflated and HOT loadings. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Full comparison of the 28 Nosler and the 7mm rum " Remington Ultra Mag" 2 big 7mm magnums that are very comparable. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm WSM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.860", maximum case length 2.100". Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. Clearly the 28 Nosler is the flat trajectory King here, but at the expense of more recoil, more powder, and a fairly large, standard-length action to fit the .534 rim/head circumference. And heres the same 175-gr. They straightened the sidewalls. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. Now lets compare this to our other two 7mm candidates. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. Does a great job on Elk or pig. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. . ABLR in the 28 Nosler. $94.95 $79.95. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. 7RM!! Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. Although, the 28 Nosler is an awesome cartridge. Its likely to be as popular in the 21st century as the Rem Mag was in the 20th. bullet wins the wind deflection category. I'm pushing the 175 eldx at 3005 fps, with excellent case life (10+ reloads). You could beat it by loading that same bullet in the 28 Nosler, but youre still facing the barrel burn out issue. Factory ammo all over, good brass fron Nosler, ADG, etc. LRHTB. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. Also, is it worth getting a new rifle in the 280AI when I already have a 270 Win? The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Most people are getting sub half moa. I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . 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