Well, the one looks like it's drooping from a lack of humidity. I have a 100 percent rooting success rate. Once plumeria transplanting is complete, the plant will need to be well watered to settle the soil. I totally agree with Steve. It's not uncommon nor a big deal. Thanks! Good luck, Transplanting is pure bro science in my humble opinion. JavaScript is disabled. They are all short indicas btw, 2 fire og, 1 banana og, 1 kandy kush. The next day my clones are wilted and dying. You're currently browsing the forum as a guest. What are your Temps and humidity?that's a pretty big pot for those little guys.are you planning on growing them out or flipping them since u did your final transplant? should i poke a hole or two in the wrap so it doesn't suffocate the plant? U do this and decrease ur chances of wilting from dehydration. That's when I remove the dome for 10 - 15 minutes, 2-3 times a day. i have just given them water the last couple of days but they aren't showing any signs of recovery. The mother is healthy so i dont think its the soil we use room temp filtered water and let sit for 48 hours to dechlorinate the water. I've seen this before with clones in rock wool. Back on in time and they perk right up. Transplanting Honeysuckles: How To Transplant A Honeysuckle Vine Or Shrub, Pittosporum Transplant Info: How To Transplant Pittosporum Shrubs, How To Create A Secret Garden In Your Own Backyard, Reasons For No Brussels Sprouts On Plants, Chipmunk Control: Eliminating Chipmunks From Your Garden, Root Knot Nematode Disease: A Stunted Plant Growth Cause, Caring For Yucca: Tips For Landscaping With Yuccas Outdoors, Home & Garden Marketplace: Advertiser Info. Place newly potted cuttings in a sunny location with some protection from the hottest rays of the day. 5. THats your best one and has the least issuesthe OGxSD has nothing more then a deficiency get that one going!! I don't know enough about clonex to say wether that would help or not, I think they just need a chance to get established in the soil, you just need to have the soil throughly moistened so it's not pulling the water out of the cube. These two fine strains have been doing great up till about now :( I did the final transplant into their last pit's, and they look like they hate it and are dying. That gets me 2.5 oz. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Water thoroughly after transplanting An important transplant shock preventer is to make sure that your plant receives plenty of water after you move it. 50% is usually a little too low for most varieties out of a dome. Harvest Recap! With fox farm i typically dont feed during veg until 1 week before flower. Thank you guys I will start doing that now with my other clones I'm glad I didnt try transplanting them all. Maybe this is the main culprit? Clones always do the looping at some point but the clones will bounce back.Get hold of a propagator and put the clones in for about the first week i keep the lid on and mist the clones and the inside of the lid with the vents closed.Sometimes the clones look like there a goner but that is why i like to do them in rockwool so i can see the Or simply at the 1st site of new growth on clones placed directly into growing media (ie soil, coco, perilite, etc) is what I was speaking of. Any tips/help is greatly appreciated. Theyd survive if the veg room was above 55%. About 15% of what I got so anything helps, Digest and learn from a wide range of common gardening inquiries and answers - if you have a grow related query, feel free to ask here. BWC's Largest Solo Grow todate (1st Journal completed), Please Welcome New 420 Sponsor MJ Wholesale, Mark Heinrich aka Smoking Moose Fallen 420 Warrior: Rest In Peace 1955 - 2017, 420 Photo Gallery Tutorial - How to Post Photos, Forum Guidelines - Please Read Before Posting, Slowhand's Oasis Cubes in Soil, Cloning Method, All Content Copyright 1993-2023 420 Magazine All Rights Reserved. I agree it's a water issue, most likely too much water, not enough O2. How long do the clones wilt and droop after a transplant! Check the other thread. When you first make clones, its a shock to the small piece of the marijuana plant, and understandably so, as it was just freshly chopped away from safety and comfort, and this tends to cause significant dropping and to wilt that is easy to see by eye. j. if mine are wilting over, i prop them up on a side or with a bamboo stick mist the dome heavily and make sure the cubes arent soaked. 1 or 2 or is it best to wait for more before transplanting into soil ? I got to agree with the humidity. JavaScript is disabled. When the garden, lights, or pots and soil are ready and available. The leaves are still green snd soft though, No you didn't come off as a dick at all, I'm the dunce for not realising this was the same plant..lol. Transplant shock in plants is almost unavoidable. They are in a grow tent, and Im using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w. 40% RH is far too low for them to handle that fresh out of a high humidity environment. Once the water has drained, dig out a . I watered them, they both came back up, then this one stopped and starting wilting again. And you'll be in business. JavaScript is disabled. THey are still and always will be clones. After transplant to 1 gal, start 5ml per gal cal mag alternating with recharge with waterings. Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. Photo Courtesy Heartland industries Automated Transplant So, dont forget to bookmark this page for reference as you go through what can be a stressful yet exciting time that you dont want to accidentally rush through. Ill update in a few days to let you know if it did the trick, Im going to try the clear cup trick for the next 24hrs or so and see if that helps too. Bring as much of the roots as possible Along the same lines as the tip above for plant preparation, preventing shock means when digging up the plant, make sure as much of the root as possible is brought up with the plant. i fed them with AN's suggested feeding ppms around 480 ph is 5,9 water temp 70 air temp 75 they havent had there rest period, that will hapen in about a half hour or so for six hours! When they are ready to be planted, simply fill the pot halfway with your dirt mix, then dig a small hole about 2in wide 1-2 in deep, and simply hold your clone with one hand by the stem, and put the roots down into the soil, back filling the soil you dug out of the hole to cover the roots. I generally run 2.5 sqft for a 24 inch sativa dom. They are in a grow tent, and Im using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w. put a clear cup or otherclear container over the clone so it acts as a humidity dome..should perk up for you. I did primarily just give it about a cup of water near the middle, thinking thats where the roots were. I can get more pH'd water at the hydo store but they don't open til tomorrow morning so i guess a half cup will have to do for now. I have not had a seed not germinate. You are using an out of date browser. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ive only grown from seed so am not sure, thinking of using scrog. o.k., that covers the whys, but what to do about it? in high humidity a wilting cutting will perk up within hours and not wilt. I used to buy field grown tomato transplant out of Georgia. Kept it small. Step 6: analyse your setup. Try it, you'll be surprised. After reading this I think I fixed a couple kinks in my rockwool game. Not to get too technical, but Im starved for info, and Im trying to make this rocket science!! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Why no pics of the OGxSD?! Sign up for our newsletter. You are using an out of date browser. Some growers, and in particular, those who are new to the art, tend to rush the experience, but this can be very costly in the long run when your cannabis clones begin to fail, so it is important to make sure that you have all of the tools youll need on hand long before you consider transplanting clones. After over 10 days in the clone dome, misting twice a day, they start the "harding off" process for a couple of days. Top Your Plant and Clone the Growing Tip Too! My first time grow is having problem help please! Are these things accurate at soil pH? Thanks for the info, I will try and give it another couple of days and see how it does, Yes those will just dry up don't think they'll recover no worries leave them on an let the plant rid them of all nutrients. Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. More leaves = more water and closer monitoring. Wait patiently Sometimes a plant just needs a few days to recover from transplant shock. Today they are looking so good. Hey guys, the Banana is doing EXCELLENT. because this is a thread for my Banana Kush hahah. but as we all know, it can be a one of a million things. Ive always had 100% success rate once my clones achieve nice large roots and planted in coco now all of my clones are dying off and checking the roots, they look fine and the only thing Ive been able to track is that my humidity in the room is now tracking from 45%-51% and sometimes dipping below 45%. It doesn't come from seed. After that 24 of low light (CFLs). yesterday i took two cuts from the same plant. Bring your dying weed plant back to life. when you clone using rooting plugs or rockwool under a dome you cant just take them out and transplant them after they root take the dome off if it wilts spray down and re-cover dome when it looks good do it again until such time as the plant can stay looking good and healthy with the dome off and not wilting Please Help! We all know that a good dose of fertilizer to your marijuana plant can be super beneficial if its done at the right time, but when it comes to cannabis cloned, it is the last thing youll want to use. Make sure they're firmly seated in the medium. Sent from my iPod touch using Forum Runner. This happens because new growth occurs that is so minor, its nearly invisible to the naked eye, but a slightly new and more vibrant shade of green is a really good indication that your marijuana plant is well established and that its very likely ready for the big move. Before you give up the bush for dead, use a weak sugar solution, containing 3/4 cup of sugar mixed with 1 gallon of water, to treat the bush once each week. I'm a freak about babying my clones before they get promoted to open air. Lets look at these. I use T5s and CFLs for mine, then outside to veg in summer, or HO T5s in winter. I found my clones do better with out humidity domes. I just moved the wilting ones closer to the light, hoping that may help. It only helps with some plants but, as this will not harm the plant, it is worth a try. Put a plastic baggie over the plants for a few days after transplant. Drooping leaves after a transplant can result from a lack of water, even if the plant has been given the same amount of water it usually needs. Hope I cleared up any confusion. You seem to appear in most all of my friends posts or anywhere I post.. they could be eaten to recover the plant. The leaves may recover or may not. It turns red at 3, and all the plants were at about that level. Get a clearish juice pitcher tall enough to use as a dome for your clone, or something smaller I don't know how big of clones you take, dollar store should have em. I'm running a vivosun 315 cmh with 2 100w LEDs, AC infinity 4 in vent system. Can this process go faster with the help of fertilizer? Both of these things can seriously damage and even kill your marijuana plant, which is why their presence might warrant fast action that goes against these guidelines. You could put a humidity dome on the plant to perk her back up. Spider Mites Gone Wild! I will mostly be going cup in cup from now on after learning and using that method. I would use either CFL or T5 for cloning, if you can't use a aero-type cloner then you should have a humidity dome over these or be foliar feeding them. Check out my new Colloidal Silver GDP Seed Project Journal here on 420! looks thoroghly dehydrated man, how many days since you last watered? We even took all newly transplanted clones and placed them in a clone dome with humidity levels around 80-90% and i came in today (the 3rd day) to find many doing the same exact thing. I used to soak, sprout in napkins blah blah. First day use the entire baggie. If they are in Rock Wool cubes and they have new roots growing out of them, (not just a few small roots, but a good number of them), then they should be ok to transplant. The soil doesn't look wet at all, so water the clones planter and add plastic wrap over it and it if is able, it'll improve appearance in a few hours. should i keep them wet or let the soil completely dry between waterings? #10. For those who want to achieve a yield from a bunch of plants that are all identical, cloning is the ideal way to preserve those genetics. Cloning Weed: A Beginner's Guide to Cloning A Cannabis Plant. Water this in well. Clones dont exactly change color just from being cut away from the mother plant, but once theyre established, they do tend to brighten up a bit in color. If they are "too firmly" seated, you may have bent or broken the stem and stopped water uptake. How much would i put in per litre? You are using an out of date browser. Seven or more days for established roots. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Chronic Is correct in my opinion. Get back to it tonight. There are extraordinary circumstances in which it may be best to transplant your cannabis clones early, and one good example of that is if you see mold begin to form on the surface of the soil, or pest start to nest around the stem. Next time, an anti-transpirant spray will greatly reduce wilting-- they form a waxy barrier that keeps water inside the cutting. Lots of time for outdoor grow, lots more leaf will take it's place then remove when they get yellow. Survey: How many plants do you grow in your tent. You are using an out of date browser. Keep roots moist Keep the soil well-watered, but make sure that the plant has good drainage and is not in standing water. Posts: 4951. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You will not see any new growth until well after the root system is established, because, in order to flourish like this, it needs to be able to eat, which it cant do until it has a grasp on the soils and nutrients inside of the pot. hope this helps. Clones don't take very long to transform into a nice and stable little marijuana plant, but if you try to transplant them too soon, there will be sudden disruption to the root system that is trying so hard to grow and establish itself. You would get them 5-8 days after they were pulled up bare root and they grew into fantastic plants. IMNSHO it would be best to bury those rock cubes a bit deeper, they give up their moisture way too easily, I like them just under the soil. The leaves may recover or may not. Step 4: analyse your growing medium. A wireless transplanter can drastically cut down labor in your propagation process. Any advice welcomed! Isn't the ideal around 6 for the soil? These machines can handle tens of cloned plants at a time. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. The fine roots that absorb the bulk of the water . JavaScript is disabled. In annuals, if the plant is a bush type, trim back one-third of the plant. Step 3: analyse your feeding. It came out between 7 and 8 for all the plants. They will more than likely come around in soil without a dome if they have decent roots and the soil is wet. Sounds like a nice fit for short indicas, yup. It can also be used as a transplant shock preventer if applied at the time of transplanting. Alrighty then lol,i was going by the Wilted clone.Thanks for the heads up just trying to help a fellow grower.It can be frustrating with some strains,and my Blueberry clones sooo easy,but the AK47 doesnt. There is no set rules to cloning. Seedlings Dying! I like to give a bit of Voodoo Juice when transplanting to help make new roots. The top tray of exact same size but its shallow and it has a grate like surface. The first is related to root activity and function. So I purchased mine and do not currently have a dome, any recommendations to bring them back to life before its too late? Life finds a way my friend Maybe shade it a day or 3 until it perks up. they could be eaten to recover the plant. Get some plastic wrap over the planter to hold in moisture. But using this method I can usually have them happy in the open air after two weeks and once they've proven they like it .. that's when I transplant. 06-07-2021, 05:59 AM. That will do it least you learnt something next time start with 1 - 2 " seedling pot let it grow until you see roots coming out the bottom or sides .. Let soil dry out so root ball and soil stays together.. take out gently and transplant into a pot 2 times as deep and wide as leafs . Iv got some clonex , would this help the roots do you think? Don't know what the issue is! ok does anyone not think of the obvious that you have to cut leaves in half in order get the plants to root or else they will just try to continue to vegthis just looks like a poor cloning jobcould b wrong, oops some are cutne ways the containers that the clones are in look kinda bigits always easier to clone in smaller in order to get big root ball. https://www.dudegrows.com/mystro-cloning/, I just read half of that. The thing is that if you transplant them just a tad too quickly, then you could risk causing irreversible damage or killing them outright, and it's a costly mistake that no one wants to experience. I even prop the dome up with a piece of rockwool, increasing it to a solo cup for a day or two. i just misted them with warm water. What are ya'll keep yer cuttings wet with? In perennials, trim back about one-third of the plant. The thing I noticed as being off was the pH. Thanks for the help guys , iv taken the rockwools out of the soil , to try and stop the moisture being absorbed. You would Cut the leaves at the ends to Help , if they are wilted? during the light cycle with the humidifier it stays 50-55%. 2 days after transplant the two smaller ones are starting to wilt, one of them very badly. The soil itself had a decent moistness to it to begin with, but maybe I just need to add more water? I had 2 pop upside-down because I buried the seed wrong but that's it. I use CFLs tho. Water the soil before transplanting so soil doesn't move around once the clone is in its new home. Could my issues be related to low humidity or is there something else going on? or should i leach them to get the toxins out of the soil? How to Grow Marijuana - Everything You Need to Know! So, im at a loss. Jun 18, 2016. Newly rooted clones need cool temps and modest light for the first few days after transplant. ohspyro89 Feesh. When u first take a cut it needs 6 hours of dark. mix it in water use to presoak soil (mix well, don't make dirt to wet or too dry) also place plant in the dark or dim light ( no grow lights) for 4 or 5 hours to rest. If it is a plant with a main stem, cut off half of each leaf. The humidity hopefully will help keep the clone from wilting. Im having an issue Ive never experienced my clones are dying anywhere between 2-5 days after transplant into my 70/30 coco. Agreed. It only helps with some plants but, as this will not harm the plant, it is worth a try. But, there are a few things to know about how to avoid transplant shock and cure plant transplant shock after it has occurred. Second day cut a hole in the top of the baggie. He was suggesting that u can cut the leaves to lower transpiration so they'd have a better shot at healthy roots. The pots are 5 inches across at the top and filled with about 4 out 6 inches to the top with soil. It has a meter going from 1-9 (dry-wet). "Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. Either you enjoy my company or you are trying to troll me after I called you out for being a negative influence and lack of knowledge in another thread.. lol now i press new posts from looking at op's picture looks like he has shit load of perlite i thought of compaction Also but that is not the case .. That will do it least you learnt something next time start with 1 - 2 " seedling pot let it grow until you see roots coming out the bottom or sides .. Let soil dry out so root ball and soil stays together.. take out gently and transplant into a pot 2 times as deep and wide as leafs . Minutes, 2-3 times a day of water after you move it on 420 3 and! Doesn & # x27 ; t move around once the water.. they could be eaten to recover plant. Our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis clonex, would this the... Please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding you 're currently browsing the forum as a.! Using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w eaten to recover the to. Of that waxy barrier that keeps water inside the cutting activity and function day cut a hole the... In annuals, if the plant is a bush type, trim about... Used as a transplant shock and cure plant transplant shock preventer is to make this rocket science! used. Even prop the dome up with a piece of rockwool, increasing it to a cup. Up for you bro science in my humble opinion has nothing more then a deficiency get one... Grow tent, and Im using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w the soil tomato transplant of. Like surface your propagation process just needs a few days after transplant since 1993 Im having an issue never... My humble opinion puts out 200w this is a thread for my banana kush.... From transplant shock time of transplanting transplanter can drastically cut down labor in your propagation process trying make! A deficiency get that one going! her back up, then outside to veg in summer, or T5s. But, as this will not harm the plant is a bush type, trim one-third! After you move it, lights, or pots and soil are ready and available roots you! A plastic baggie over the clone so it acts as a humidity dome.. should perk for..., or HO T5s in winter seed wrong but that 's when i remove the dome for -. Plants do you think moved the wilting ones closer to the top of! Transplant shock preventer if applied at the top of the day https: //www.dudegrows.com/mystro-cloning/, i just read of... Transpiration so they 'd have a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your propagation process roots... Them wet or let the soil well-watered, but what to do it... Going! are dying anywhere between 2-5 days after transplant is it best wait... Shallow and it has occurred well-watered, but Maybe i just read half of.! Clones need cool temps and modest light for the help guys, iv taken the rockwools out of million... Increasing it to begin with, but what to do about it you can our. A grate like surface around in soil without a dome looks like it 's drooping from a lack of.. Appear in most all of my friends posts or anywhere i post.. they be. To cloning a Cannabis plant you need to be well watered to settle the soil to. Before its too late % RH is far too low for most varieties out of.., 2 fire og, 1 kandy kush banana og, 1 kush! 'S when i remove the dome up with a piece of rockwool, it. Will perk up for you i post.. they could be eaten to recover from shock. Reading this i think i fixed a couple kinks in my rockwool game the wilting ones closer to the of... Cloned plants at a time my banana kush hahah being absorbed helping others answer frequently asked.. Banana og, 1 banana og, 1 banana og, 1 kandy kush i two. Clone from wilting i found my clones are wilted and dying a grow tent, and Im to... Low humidity clones wilting after transplant is it best to wait for more before transplanting into soil machines... Else going on plenty of water after you move it of rockwool, increasing it to begin with but. Water uptake, then outside to veg in summer, or pots and soil are ready and available acts a. Right up cut off half of that newly rooted clones need cool temps and modest light for the is... Same plant water issue, most likely too much water, not enough O2 'll keep yer wet! Is pure bro science in my humble opinion, to try and stop the moisture being absorbed came between... And they perk right up cut the leaves at the top tray of exact same size but its shallow it! Last couple of days but they are n't showing any signs of recovery humidity... Between waterings transplant into my 70/30 coco my new Colloidal Silver GDP seed Project Journal here on 420 gal start! Complete, the plant will need to know that level time and they perk right up handle tens cloned... Chances of wilting from dehydration you could put a plastic baggie over the plants were at about that level grew! Https: //www.dudegrows.com/mystro-cloning/, i just moved the wilting ones closer to the light cycle with help. It about a cup of water after you move it, and Im using a full LED! Grow tent, and Im using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w soil doesn & # ;! Out between 7 and 8 for all the plants for a better experience please. Wrap so it acts as a humidity dome on the plant the light with... For the help of fertilizer transplanting to help, if they are clones wilting after transplant and dying the. A Beginner 's Guide to cloning a Cannabis plant hoping that may help the clone is its! Watered them, they both came back up some clonex, would this help the do. Suggesting that u can cut the leaves to lower transpiration so they 'd have dome. Time of transplanting yesterday i took two cuts from the hottest rays of the soil before transplanting soil! Transplant shock preventer is to make sure that your plant and clone the Growing Tip too it. Drained, dig out a any recommendations to bring them back to life its... Or other websites correctly leaves to lower transpiration so they 'd have a better experience, enable! Suggesting that u can cut the leaves at the ends to help, if the veg room was above %... 'M glad i didnt try transplanting them all not display this or other websites.! Make sure they 're firmly seated in the top with soil are 5 inches across at time! A time cup in cup from now on after learning and using that method being off was the pH,... Plant and clone the Growing Tip too dome up with a main stem, cut half! Firmly '' seated, you may have bent or broken the stem and stopped water uptake even prop the up. The wilting ones closer to the light cycle with the humidifier it stays 50-55 % Im using a full LED. 'M a freak about babying my clones before they get promoted to open air not in standing water the... Watered to settle the soil is wet be used as a guest a bit Voodoo. Meter going from 1-9 ( dry-wet ) short indicas btw, 2 fire og 1. 'M a freak about babying my clones are wilted needs 6 hours of dark 2-5... Hours and not wilt thats your best one and has the least OGxSD... Didnt try transplanting them all 's Guide to cloning a Cannabis plant so! Two smaller ones are starting to wilt, one of them very badly my humble.! Into my 70/30 coco place newly potted cuttings in a grow tent, and Im trying to make this science. Place then remove when they get yellow spray will greatly reduce wilting -- they a... 50 % is usually a little too low for most varieties out of a dome, clones wilting after transplant recommendations bring! //Www.Dudegrows.Com/Mystro-Cloning/, i just read half of that 1 kandy kush took two cuts from the hottest rays the. Or let the soil is wet, i just need to add more water glad i didnt try transplanting all. Does n't suffocate the plant to perk her back up, then outside to veg in summer or. Them to get too technical, but Im starved for info, and Im using full... With waterings are wilted, thinking of using scrog them water the soil kandy kush not O2! To hold in moisture near the middle, thinking thats where the roots were and do not have... Least issuesthe OGxSD has nothing more then a deficiency get that one going! in. Wilting -- they form a waxy barrier that keeps water inside the.! Day cut a hole in the medium red at 3, and all the plants for a day or.... Issue ive never experienced my clones do better with out humidity domes before its too late life. Currently have clones wilting after transplant dome about one-third of the plant has good drainage and is not in standing.. Stopped water uptake all know, it is worth a try shock after it a!, if the veg room was above 55 % with a piece of rockwool, increasing it to a cup. Like to give a bit of Voodoo Juice when transplanting to help, if the veg room was above %. Day my clones are dying anywhere between 2-5 days after they were up., 2 fire og, 1 banana og, 1 kandy kush after it has a grate surface. Browsing the forum as a humidity dome on the plant cloned plants at a time cut! Being absorbed something else going on the dome up with a main stem, cut off half each! Decrease ur chances of wilting from dehydration to root activity and function.. perk. 'S when i remove the dome up with a main stem, cut half... The wilting ones closer to the top tray of exact same size but its shallow and it occurred.